Thursday, March 13, 2008

Prices for Six Flags Coaster or Other Attractions over a 7 year period

This is ridiculous as how much these rides cost. On some of these, I am taking an educated guess like Raging Bull. Goliath costed 21 million, and Raging Bull was the first of these, so you would guess that it is somewhere around that number. This was in an article that Six Flags has spent somewhere around 750 million in rides for 7 years. So, I was seeing what each park got, and this was the result of what I got. I got 807 million, but it's close enough tp 750 million.

Six Flags still today spends around a 100 million each year in capital expenditures. This could be new rides, fixing stuff, painting, or putting up new signs. That's way too much money!! NOW, they only have 12 regular theme parks. The rest are water parks which don't require a lot of money. Here, and there, they will put in a 2 million dollar water slide.

Raging Bull 20 million
Deja Vu 12 million
V2 8.5
Hurricane Harbor 25 million
Mardi Gras 8 million
Superman 15 million
Tornado 3 million
Six Flags Great America

100 million

blackbeard 4 million
Kingda Ka 40 million
Medusa 15 million
Roadrunner 500,000
Superman 15 million
El Toro 6 million
Flats 40 million
Six Flags Great Adventure

120.5 million

Canyon 500,000
Scream 15 million
X 14 million
Deja Vu 12 million
Tatsu 21 million
Goliath 13 million
Six Flags Magic Mountain

75.5 million

Goliath 20 million
Vampire 20 million
Spinning Mouse 4 million
La Ronde

44 million

Goliath 20 million
Deja Vu 12 million
Superman Ultimate Flight 15 million
Skull Island 2 million
Canyon Blaster 2 million
Georgia Scorcher 11 million
Six Flags Over Georgia

62 million

Boss 4 million
Scooby Doo 1 million
Water park 10 million
Six Flags St. Louis

15 million

Titan 13 million
Canyon Blaster 2 million
Batman 11 million
10 Flats (Some Used) 2 million
Six Flags Over Texas

28 million

Boomerang 4 million
Poltergeist 11 million
Superman 14 million
Six Flags Fiesta Texas

29 million

Boomerang 4 million
Flying Coaster 6 million
Half Pipe 7.5 million
Elitch Gardens

17.5 million

Superman 12 million
Darien Lake

12 million

Batwing 15 million
Great Chase 2 million
Joker's Jinx 11 million
Two-Face 9 million
Superman 12 million
Six Flags America

49 million

Batman 15 million
Flashback 4 million
Mr. Six 4 million
Poision 3 million
Six Flags New England

26 million

Cobra 3 million
Medusa 15 million
Roadrunner 1 million
V2 8.5 million
Roar 4.5 million
Six Flags Marine World

32 million

Batman 13 million
Tom and Jerry 3 million
Stunt Fall 12 million
Coaster Express 4 million
Superman 15 million
Madrid Spain

47 million

Cobra 4 million
Loup Garou 4 million
Six Flags Belgium

8 million

Batman 11 million
Jester 20,000
Six Flags New Orleans

11.2 million

Road Runner Express 4 million
Water Park 7 million
Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom

11 million

Batman 10 million
Medusa 4 million
Superman 10 million
Six Flags Mexico

24 million

Beaver 3 million
X-Flight 15 million
Steel Venom 8.5 million
Dominator 14 million
Villain 4 million
Six Flags Ohio (Worlds of Adventure)

44.5 million

Serial Thriller 10 million
Astroworld

10 million

Road Runner 1 million
Great Escape

1 million

Flying Dutchman 4 million
Goliath 12 million
La via Volta 4 million
Robin Hood 4 million
Superman 10 million
Six Flags Holland

34 million

Klondike 4 million
Timberhawk 4 million
Wild Waves

8 million

809 million for all these rides in 7 years!!!

Are Six Flags prices really that expensive?

You can get great discounts online, and it's not expensive as regular price suggests. Is Six Flags charging enough money to get in with these huge discounts? I think not. What about the season pass prices at Magic Mountain? They are underpricing themselves way too much!

$54.99 Six Flags Great America - really charging $40.00
$45.00 Six Flags St. Louis- really charging $37.00
$40.00 Kentucky Kingdom -really charging $31.00
$50.00 Six Flags America really charging $40.00

Great Adventure $60.00 really charging $40.00
Magic Mountain $60.00 really charging $40.00 In my opinion, I think they should charge: $54.00 - $7.00 discount
$30.00 Hurricane Harbor- $5.00 discount (However, you give Hurricane Harbor something new.)

Season Pass Today is-----$60.00 for Magic Mountain which is STUPID
I believe it should be: $110.00 Six Flags Magic Mountain
$60.00 Hurricane Harbor
$150.00 for Hurricane harbor + Magic Mountain

I believe it should be:
Great America - $54.00 - $7.00 discount
I think parking at all parks should be $10.00. Admit that they were stupid, stop giving maps, and parking has gone down!!!

Over Texas $45.00 really charging $40.00 (Wow, that's cheap either way!)
New England $50.00 really charging $40.00
Fiesta Texas $49.00 really charging $34.00

Great Escape $40.00 kids free
Six Flags Mexico $25.00 HUH???
La Ronde $36.00

Wild Adventures- Should I go or Not?

I have never been to Wild Adventures, and I was wondering is the park worth it? mult means I think would love to go on that ride many times during the day. I've never been on a Moser Sidewinder, but I think I would love it. Please leave any comments if you have been to this park.

Rides that look Great/Good!
mult Yo-Yo Cypress Gardens is great
mult Wipeout
mult Power Surge
mult Chance Alpine Bobs (themed Swingin Safari)

mult Boomerang-Rough but awesome
multSidewinder ??? It's by Moser, and it spins around back and forth (Pendulum)
mult Mouse Coaster - It's a mouse coaster. What else can you say about it.

multChance Aviator??? - I've never been on an Aviator before.
Swamp Thing (Vekoma Inverted)-It was good at Cypress Gardens.
Double Shot - once and awhile
Bumper Cars - Remember, you can't hit head to head on these bumper cars which I think is stupid.

Kite Flyer
Pipeline Water Coaster
Tilt-A-Whirl It's a G5!! Boo!! It's just GOOD, and NOT GREAT!
Inverter - iffy at best

Tiger Terror Wisdom coaster (It looks bad like a Dragon Wagon ride.)
SLC = horrible.
Ant Farm Express=Spacely's which isn't good, but stil can go on it.

My Opinions for Worst Flat

These are my opinion:

Worst Flat (Amusement Park & Carnival) Ride (Top 15)
Top 15 instead of 10 due to Some Rides Leaving Parks or Carnivals (Yeah!!)

Mega Bounce (Cypress Gardens) – Roughest Piece of JUNK
Hi Roller
Space Roller
Downdraft- All Star Amusements sold this ride.

Round-Up / Zero Gravity
Soarin’
Twister = Movie (Universal Studios)
Shrek 4D

Wildcatter (SFOT –Intamin Generation Drop Tower 1)- This ride has been demolished, but there is still at Cedar Point.
Trailblazer- Six Flags Great America doesn’t operate this ride anymore. The ride’s arm is partial there, but it’s not open.

X-Scream- I don’t know of any carnival that has this ride. Windy City, and All Around did, but there X-Scream is now history.
1001 Nachts

Pharoah’s Fury (Rocking Boat Ride)
Jester’s Wild Ride
Rodeo (SFOT)

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These rides are hard to find out of all the worst flat rides because not many amusement parks or carnivals have them, or they are really old:

Wildcatter (SFOT –Intamin Generation Drop Tower 1)- This ride has been demolished, but there is still at Cedar Point.
Trailblazer- Six Flags Great America doesn’t operate this ride anymore. The ride’s arm is partial there, but it’s not open.

X-Scream- I don’t know of any carnival that has this ride. Windy City, and All Around did, but there X-Scream is now history.
Hi Roller

Downdraft- All Star Amusements sold this ride. I don't believe they made a lot of this ride. Dartron has the Hurricane, and carnivals like that ride. They were smart enough not to buy the Downdraft.

The Age Old Question- Why is Fright Fest at Six Flags packed?

It’s not just about the “rides.” You can be a chicken, and go to the park, and enjoy it. People like getting scared. In other words, people can go on 4 rides, but still have a fun time because they are enjoying getting scared in the haunted houses, or other stuff.

The teenagers get something else to do. It’s like having more rides in the park. If they are sick of going on Batman the Ride the entire year, they get to walk through Fright Zones, and so on. Sometimes, they have new shows during Fright Fest that teenagers might like also that you can't get any other time.

“Dark girls” unite! Some people really like Halloween stuff, and scary stuff. There is a different type of teenager that likes to attend these events, and they are “dark girls.” You hardly see any of these type of people during the regular season, but they come out now.

It’s a Halloween event. It’s October, and people want to do something Halloweenish, and what’s the perfect way to do so. The rides are themed, and are a little different from how they usually run.

The Halloween event is really only for 8 days open to the general public. Yes, October is the whole month, but the park is only open on weekends. So, have you all these people from the regular season coming to the park during this event because it’s so different.

It’s so darn cheap!! Tickets are $15 off during the last two weeks of Fright Fest, and are $25 off during the first two weeks of Fright Fest. That is really cheap. All you have to do is go online! This for Six Flags.

It’s the end of the end. This is it. The season is coming to a close, and people want to get on there last rides before it closes.

What Should Six Flags Magic Mountain do?

I think they should:

Remove one flume water ride. The Yo-Yo looks horrible. It's needs it's siding even if they just call it Yo-Yo. It just looks bad. Restore the Himilaya.

Add 7 more flats (4,229,000) Orbiter 400,000, Used Cliffhanger 129,000, Used Flying Bobs with music, lights, and sound. 300,000, Century Wheel 400,000 -Medium Sized Ferris Wheel, 2 Gee Whizes at 1.2 million, Swing Around 600,000, Used Wipeout that has seatbelts 200,000,

In 3 years, buy a Scooby Doo Dark ride that costs 5 million.

In 4 years, add 5 kids rides ($750,000) 1 Hampton Umbrella Ride, Zamperla Speedway, Fun House, Beetle ride, Fun Slide

Advertise that we are a new Six Flags Magic Mountain. Our roller coasters are Open for business!!!! Buy more roller coaster trains for most of there coasters even if they can't fit on the track like Batman the Ride. Buy more than 2 roller coaster trains because of the non-offseason they have. They should also buy 2 new (non G5) Tilt-A-Whirls because they torn down the other one!

In 6 years: add a KMG Fireball and add a Tivoli Spin Out. These are probably going to cost about $2 million which is nothing compared to a 16 million B&M. If they are really popular, buy 2 more to help with capacity. The bigger version of the Fireball isn't as great as the Fireball, and I think that the park should get 2 instead of it.
Also, add yet another dark ride 5 million. Willy Wonka if they have the rights.

In 10 years, buy a mouse coaster, and replace Viper.
In 11 years, add a Power Surge, add 2 Scats, add more kids rides, and take out the Round Up.
In 12 years, add 2 Zippers.
In 15 years, add a B&M sitdown coaster with Ninja gone.

What I think Parks Should do When they are in Trouble.

Six Flags is in a huge debt, and thus had to sell some parks last year. Cedar Fair is in debt, and wanted to sell the company.

So, why are these things happening?

The obvious thing to me is that these theme parks are buying too many high-priced rides. I mean not only do we have roller coasters that have a high-priced tag, but there are flat rides that are the same way. Power Tower is priced around $10 million while Max Air costs $7.5 million. The Huss Top Spin costs $3 million. This is just ridiculous for those rides.

Obviously, good roller coasters are going to cost a lot more money than bad ones. At Six Flags Great America, why does the park need a roller coaster every other year? In 2001, they got 2 coasters. In 2003 and 2004, they added two more. This is just spending like anything.

Of course, attendance is going to go down if you don’t add anything. The reason is because people get bored of the rides they have already (some people). They want something new. Thus, why not try exhilarating flat rides that don’t cost an arm and a leg. You could add Flying Bobs, KMG Fireball, KMG Spin Out, Tivoli Orbiter, Wisdom Gee Whiz, Hi-Lite Scat, Chance Zipper, Dark Rides, Zamperla Disko’, Chance Yo-Yo that tilts, Eyerly Spider, Chance Wipeout, Zamperla Power Surge, Tilt-A-Whirl, Himilaya, and so on.

You don’t have to add them every year either. If there is a carnival, and they have the same rides year after year, they will eventually get bored of it (Maybe, they will.), but 2 years or even 3 years in a row is not a big deal. The people will still come back, and they will enjoy the rides.

To solve the debt problem, go to the exciting cheaper rides that the carnival can provide, and so can the amusement park. Yes, get new coasters, but don’t get them for 5-6 years unless you are park that doesn’t have the many roller coasters like Six Flags St Louis, or Six Flags Fiesta Texas.

Amusement Park Ride Prices

I have gotten these from various sources including rcdb.com, Coastercrew.com, Noah's Ark.com, a King's Dominion Site, and a roller coaster video (I forgot the name.)

These are:

Huss Top Spin - 3.5 million
S&S Screamin' Swing - $6 million
Intamin Impulse Coaster (Vertical Velocity or Wicked Twister) - $10 million and 8.5 million for smaller versoin

Hydra the Revenge - $13 million
Max Air at Cedar Point was around 7.5 million

Bat at Lagoon Park in Utah (Vekoma Suspended Family Coaster)- 3 million
Spider Roller Coaster at Lagoon Park in Utah (Maurer Söhne / Xtended SC 2000)- 3 million

In 1999 a pair of new PTC's went for ~$800,000.
Wiggle's World costs 3 million.
Operation Spygirl Show set was 5 million.

New mouse coaster (Batman Dark Knight) was 7.5 million.
Superman Ultimate Flight was 15 million.
Joker’s Jinx at Six Flags America was 10 million.

Great Bear at Hersheypark was 13 million.
Magnum at Cedar Point was 8 million.

Griffon: 15.6 million
Corkscrew (Cedar Point): 1.75 million

Tony Hawk’s Big Spin: 6.5 million
Tatsu was 21 million.
Goliath @ SFOG was 20 million.

X ^ 2, they are spending an additional 10 million on new stuff for the ride.

Skull Island type of kids water playground area at waterpark This is the place that has slides in the complex, and water buckets.: 1.2 million
Expedition Everest- 100 million
Mission Space – 100 million

Radiator Springs at Disney’s California Adventure (Similar to Test Track I’m thinking) – 300 million
Twilight Zone: Tower of Terror (MGM) – 140 million

Spiderman (Islands of Adventure) – nearly 100 million (Each vehicle costs 100,000.)
Splash Mountain – 90 million
Indiana Jones Adventure – 100 million

Rolling Thunder: 5 million
Rhino Rally: 25 million
Drop Zone @ Kings Island: 10 million

Italian Job Stunt Coaster: 13 million
Flight of Fear: 17 million
Face-Off: 11 million

Rugrat’s Runaway Reptar: 4 million
Racer: 1.2 million
The Beast: 4 million

Son of Beast: 15 million
Vortex: 4 million
Firehawk: 10 million to install at Kings Island. It came with an initial cost at Gaugea Lak to begin with as being called X-Flight.

Adventure Express (Arrow Mine Train): 4 million
Delirium: 4.5 million (Max Air)
Tomb Raider the Ride: A site says around 20 million, but I don’t think that’s true. This is Huss Top Spin with fire effects.

Time Warp (Noah’s Ark Water park)- “over one million dollars to build”.
Black Anaconda (Noah’s Ark Waterpark)- 2.5 million dollars This is the watercoaster.
Hurricane Harbor waterpark at Six Flags Great America -25 million

As you can see, rides are really expensive! Thus, when you go to an amusement park remember that you are paying a lot of money because they are expensive to maintain, and buy.